[Jukebox-list] 1958 United (Was: Done reading "The juke boxandme" )

[Jens Hultgren]

True, they (Aireon and also Packard) should've put a safety switch in there
so when for example a warped 78 jams the mech won't proceed to destroy all
the records. I have worked on 4-5 Aireons and didn't have the problem. Once
I managed to brake a whole rack of 78s (including some really good ones :(
)in an AMI C in the way you described.

  Jens



On 8/24/06, dirksenj at bellsouth.net <dirksenj at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> It's not really a timing issue (after all it's geared), but an alignment
> issue. There are several adjustments that must be perfect. The real
> problem
> is after the record has played - you've got a record spinning at 78 rpm
> bouncing around in a ring which then gets rotated 90 degrees and then the
> arm has to shove the record back into a narrow slot in the rack. Mine
> broke
> a record at this moment once, and since there are no safeties, it
> proceeded
> to break every record in the rack on it's way to the next selection.
> Violently. At least the Packard has that cork clutch that slips and helps
> minimize damage.
>
> I once bought some parts from an old operator which included an Aireon amp
> and credit unit. I asked what happened to the rest of the machine, and he
> pointed to the river nearby. It ended up there after one too many service
> calls for broken records. This was a new machine - not some old worn out
> machine ready to be retired. He told me he was glad he only bought one.
> Sorry, but I think the Aireon deserves the bad rap it got and the short
> life
> span of that company proves it.
>
> I did get mine to play long enough to sell it. I sometimes miss a
> particular
> machine after it sells, but not that one.
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jens Hultgren" <drjukebox at gmail.com>
> To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] 1958 United (Was: Done reading "The juke
> boxandme" )
>
>
> >A rack with records standing like in an AMI A. Rack moves when selection
> is
> > made, arm takes out record and it is placed in a ring, that lays it down
> > on
> > the turntable and then it is played horisontally. 24 records, plays one
> > side
> > only.
> > Not much too it, but timing is critical when the  record is taken out
> and
> > laid down. The same problem with the Packards - if they aren't lubed and
> > running smooth, a record will jam and then you'll have shards and chips
> > all
> > over the place. I have found several Manhattans with a layer of black
> dust
> > and chips on the bottom of the cabinet.
> > I've heard that on the Aireons  the base plate wasn't strong enough and
> > could sag. Never found this problem myself. Actually, never had a
> problem
> > with running an Aireon.
> > When a machine gets a bad rap, it sticks.
> >
> >  Jens
> >
> >
> > On 8/24/06, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Jens Hultgren <drjukebox at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes absolutely - if you have ten or more machines on a route, it is
> >> > critical
> >> > and there are other aspects of the Aireon that must've made it very
> >> > unattractive to operate compared to a M100A.
> >>
> >> What kind of mechanism did the Aireon machines have?
> >> I've tried to find a picture of the inside of one on
> >> the web and have come up empty.
> >>
> >>
> >> David Breneman         david_breneman at yahoo.com
> >>
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