[Jukebox-list] 1958 United (Was: Done reading "The juke boxandme")

[Jens Hultgren]

You're sounding like an oldtime operator :o)
I've just been lucky, I guess. Or perhaps they liked me.
I counted them, I have had one 1207 "Blonde Bombshell", one 400 "Coronet"
(or "Canned Ham" by its' shape), and three 1207 Airliners.
The first Airliner I restored I put in an antique store, where it was played
quite a bit until it was sold after half a year or so.
I restored another Airliner and the Coronet, and never had a serious problem
with those either. But I doubt I put more than a few hundred plays on those
two. I still have an Airliner somewhere in storage - perhaps I'll pull it
out and see if it can create a mess. :o)

That's an engineering flaw, storing the records in a rack, pulling them out
and then moving them in another plane to play them. This is asking for
trouble, and like I said not good from an operators point of view (profit
and dependability).

Ok, the good points. The Aireon is serviced from the front with good access
to all units (take that, Seeburg!). Sound is good. Number of selections
adequate for the period. Unique styling - but if you like it is a matter of
taste. Scarceness - but this often works in reverse, since the most popular
machine (W1015) later becomes the most collectible. How many people in the
world know what an Aireon is?

The Seeburg M100A made the competition look like dinosaurs. Aireons and
Packards must've become close to impossible to sell. Ground-breaking
engineering, a big increase in selections, radically new angular styling,
all at once. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned that must've been a
revelation was the lighting - down from the dozens of light bulbs in the
Wurlies to just one 33 inch flourescent! And the flourescents in the Aireons
are so many that they are hard to count - 10 or 11 is it?

    Jens







On 8/24/06, dirksenj at bellsouth.net <dirksenj at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> My Airliner did the same thing. On my machine, it was caused by too little
> clearance between the turntable platter and the far side record retaning
> bracket - the record would get 'pinched' between them and not advance all
> the way. I ended up slotting the bracket mounting holes to get a little
> more
> clearance.
>
> The operator I talked to called it a "Barely-on" as it was always broken
> down. "Scarey-on" is another nickname I've heard. I called it much worse
> names, chiefly "POS". "FPOS" would fit just fine, and the "F" doesn't
> stand
> for "friendly" this time :).
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JHayes2613 at aol.com>
> To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] 1958 United (Was: Done reading "The juke
> boxandme")
>
>
> > The Fiesta I once had had a little lever that 'kicked" the
> > vertically-standing disk out onto the turntable, then the turntable
> would
> > pivot to the horizontal position where the tone arm wold move over. If
> the
> > reocrd wasn't kicked out all the way and became stuck halfway in the
> rack,
> > the rotating turntable would snap the record in half.
> >
> > In a message dated 8/23/2006 6:53:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Jens
> > Hultgren" <drjukebox at gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >>A rack with records standing like in an AMI A. Rack moves when selection
> >>is
> >>made, arm takes out record and it is placed in a ring, that lays it down
> >>on
> >>the turntable and then it is played horisontally. 24 records, plays one
> >>side
> >>only.
> >>Not much too it, but timing is critical when the record is taken out and
> >>laid down. The same problem with the Packards - if they aren't lubed and
> >>running smooth, a record will jam and then you'll have shards and chips
> >>all
> >>over the place. I have found several Manhattans with a layer of black
> dust
> >>and chips on the bottom of the cabinet.
> >>I've heard that on the Aireons the base plate wasn't strong enough and
> >>could sag. Never found this problem myself. Actually, never had a
> problem
> >>with running an Aireon.
> >>When a machine gets a bad rap, it sticks.
> >>
> >> Jens
> >>
> >>
> >>On 8/24/06, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Jens Hultgren <drjukebox at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Yes absolutely - if you have ten or more machines on a route, it is
> >>> > critical
> >>> > and there are other aspects of the Aireon that must've made it very
> >>> > unattractive to operate compared to a M100A.
> >>>
> >>> What kind of mechanism did the Aireon machines have?
> >>> I've tried to find a picture of the inside of one on
> >>> the web and have come up empty.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
> >>>
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