[Jukebox-list] Re: Design/serviceperson

[Wesley Dean]

    Jim, have you thought about how boring this list would be without two old fools like Ron and me? Wes .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dirksenj at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Re: Design/serviceperson


> Ron - I had decided you and Wes were having a little too much fun at my 
> expense, and my normal reaction is to "poke back" when that happens. I 
> developed this self defense mechanism by growing up with hurled insults from 
> three older brothers. I do realize most service persons are not as sloppy as 
> I made them out to be, but also know most engineers are not stuffy 
> "know-it-alls" either. Still, I believe there is a little bit of truth in 
> each stereotype.
> 
> Jim
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Rich" <ronnnrich at yahoo.com>
> To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Re: Design/serviceperson
> 
> 
>> Jim,
>>  I have no quarrel with higher education, only with those who KNOW, that 
>> they "know it all", and are unwilling to advance their education any more, 
>> by just listening to another view, with an open mind.
>>  The "service person" that you describe needing that "tool kit", in my 
>> opinion, would not be what I would call a "service person"--merely a 
>> "parts changer" -- which sadly. many were/are-, as most operators can not 
>> see the value to a good "service person" and refuse to pay a good wage.
>>  Glad you are cracking up--keep on laughing--and Happy New Year to all!! 
>> Ron Rich
>>
>> dirksenj at bellsouth.net wrote:
>>  You two crack me up. I didn't realize higher education was such a bad 
>> thing.
>> In my 18 years of factory work, I've yet to meet a maintenance/service 
>> tech
>> who didn't grumble when you asked them to fix something (as in ask them to
>> DO THEIR JOB). I think there must be a genetic flaw in these people that
>> predisposes them to be grouchy :). If a service person ever became a 
>> jukebox
>> design engineer, there would be a "tool kit" in each machine. It would 
>> hold
>> smoked cigarettes, gum wrappers, used matches, and coffee cups to throw on
>> the floor of the machine, nail files to booger up all the contacts, and a
>> small roll of tin foil to wrap around blown fuses. Oh yeah, almost forgot
>> the tin cup to hold all the screws they remove and never put back. Oh 
>> yeah,
>> and a place to throw all the covers and back doors :-).
>>
>> Jim
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "The Jukebox Junkyard"
>> To: "Jukebox mailing list"
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Re: Design/serviceperson
>>
>>
>> Ron, the chances that a service person becoming a design engineer are
>> only two; slim and none. Wes
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Rich"
>> To: "Jukebox mailing list"
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Re: Design/serviceperson
>>
>>
>> Wes,
>> I agree 150% with that statement !! But only to give the "devil his due",
>> engineers are not taught that in school--they must learn it in OJT--which
>> some do--others don't--
>> Ron Rich
>>
>> The Jukebox Junkyard wrote:
>> Ron, my contention is if the engineers considered the service people
>> initially, a lot of complaints would be unnecessary. Wes
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Rich"
>> To: "Jukebox mailing list"
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:20 AM
>> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Design/serviceperson
>>
>>
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