[Jukebox-list] AMI R-84 Jukebox speaker problem

Ina-Gadda-Da-Records oldereck at comcast.net
Sat Jun 17 11:06:21 PDT 2006


Thanks Nigel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nigel Pugh" <pughn at npsyssoft.force9.co.uk>
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Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Jukebox-list] AMI R-84 Jukebox speaker problem


> Dont worry about the swirls, they are mostly inaudiable.
>
> On tight or bent dividers the problem is worse. You can get 2 for each 
> play
> of a record - one on the outward move to the turntable, one in the inward.
>
> The commercial records will have been played 100s of times, your home
> collection will never accumulate enough swirls to worry you.
>
> Like Wes says, it was made to make money, not pamper records. If you are
> concerned, buy an NSM or Seeburg.
>
> It should not really be an issue.
>
> That tone arm has been in used since 1963, and if set up to 5 grams will 
> NOT
> wear your records more than anything else. All other things need to be
> correctly set up i.e. tone arm cables may need replacing, make sure 
> magnetic
> trip switch isnt magnetising the tone arm inwards. Chech that all the 
> record
> dividers are have equal gaps, and the stopping switches ensure the records
> stop  AT THE TOP correctly.
>
> I have a JBM 200 (1964) and actually removed the rear dividers on the
> carousel (the ones you cant see without removing the mech). I dont get any
> swirls, ever, and this was done 20 years ago and its never ever dropped or
> mishandled a record, so I dont actually think they are necessary!
>
> I have serviced 100s of Rowes - they have decent Shure cartridges and will
> wear your records far less than Rock Olas and Wurlies with ceramics. You
> have been mis informed.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel, UK
>
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>
>
> I guess it's too bad there weren't felt sides for that rack. It just might
> save the records.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Breneman" <david_breneman at yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:24 AM
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>
>
>>
>>
>> --- Ina-Gadda-Da-Records <oldereck at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When I opened it up, there was a full rack of records that were
>>> swirled
>>> pretty bad. Most of what I put in are reissues, some are pricey.
>>> I'm just
>>> not sure if the design problem lies in the weight of the tone arm
>>> or if it's caused by the turning of the record cage.
>>
>> The transfer arm rotates the record as it raises it out of the
>> rack and again as it returns it, and the record rubs on the
>> "ribs" of the rack as it moves in and out.  This is what
>> causes the swirls.
>>
>>
>> David Breneman         david_breneman at yahoo.com
>>
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