[Jukebox-list] Tonearm Damping,was Seeburg SS160:Red Tone Arm

[Rick Force]

Hi JC,
I have had several 222's and they all had the original red tone arm/ cartridge and all of them (mechs rebuilt) set down too fast/ hard and even skated in a few grooves to boot. The tracking pressure was correct on them all. I did have to readjust the reset levers on them as this was causing the skating, but they still were too rough on the set down and none of them ever sounded good. My 1958 Wurlitzer 2200 sounds a lot better (with the stereo arm and cart conversion) and is very gentle on the record loading. As much as I love the 222, I don't think I'd ever own another. If I were to get another Seeburg, it would have to be a mono one, not anther early stereo version as they sound too bad (I'm not going to put up ugly external spkrs just to try and get better sound).  I think the sound system in those early stereo units was poorly designed. They could of at least added tweeters so you could get decent sound from the juke without the extra expense and space needed for externals. Those "full range" spkrs were not very full range at all, even after reconing them (it did help, but not much). Rick.
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  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Tonearm Damping,was Seeburg SS160:Red Tone Arm



  I'll check those things. Hopefully it's one of them. It's a good idea to  
  check the needle pressure anyway to make sure it's not wrecking my  records. At 
  least it hasn't wrecked a needle yet but it can't be good for  the lead in 
  groove of the record. A few tick a couple times on the  lead in groove that didn't 
  before they were put in the 222. Also it looks like  it sets too close to the 
  edge of the record and jumps into the lead in  groove.Thus  the thump noise I 
  hear. Looks like my next  project is to check the tone arm adjustments on my 
  222.  If looks  like I need  the fluid replaced for sure I'll contact you off  
  list.
   
  J.C.
   
   
  In a message dated 11/3/2006 11:39:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
  ronnnrich at yahoo.com<mailto:ronnnrich at yahoo.com> writes:

  >The  process is complicated, and I don't sell the fluid. You should first 
  check  that >the mounting screw, holding the tone arm is tight, then be sure 
  that  the springs are >adjusted for the correct pressure.  If you then  decide 
  you want to send it to me, >contact me off list. Ron Rich 


   
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