[Jukebox-list] RE: Tonearm Damping,was Seeburg SS160:Red Tone

[Mechanical Music of S.F.]

WHOA! Relax.

It was already explained a day or 2 ago.
Seeburg redesigned the tonearm for the SS160 model year to accomidate the 
new cartridge, and found it to be defective.  It was painted red.
Not ALL red Seeburg tonearms are bad, jut the ones in the SS160 if they are 
red and original to the machine.  They leak their damping fulid.
You can identify them by
A. Being red, and
B. Being for the later style cartridge.

Previous machines had red tonearms but were for the previous T needle 
cartridge.

Subsequent arms for the new cartridge were painted greenish blue, probably 
to avoid confusion.  This is what you want in your machine.  A later model 
blue or unpainted tonearm that accepts the newer cartridge.

Kyle ~
Mechanical Music of San Francisco
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Hello, Everyone-
Okay, I have a friend who owes me a favor and is doing some trouble-shooting
on my SS-160. Good guy, knows his '40s and '50s jukes quite well and is good
at what he does (NOT a novice). The deal here is: he's not buying into the 
red
tone arm stuff. He has never heard of it, can't understand it, and I'm 
asking
him to please, please, PLEASE replace the red tone arm in my SS160. He wants
to know- why? What is it in the machine that makes me think it needs to be
replaced? For starters, the previous owner had just replaced the needles for 
me
and inside of a half-dozen plays they're already trashed. I ask you guys, 
please
tell me the why's, the logistics, the problems in the engineering of the
dreaded RED TONE ARMS so I can pass all the info along to him and convince 
him.
And why RED? What was the deal with the RED? Tell me everything. Replacing 
the
cartridge in the same tone arm would just be futile, right? Please help me 
make
my case. All your input would be appreciated.
Many thanks-
John Hayes

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