[Jukebox-list] RE: Tonearm Damping,was Seeburg SS160:Red Tone

[JHayes2613 at aol.com]

So is the fluid in the cartridge or is there some kind of reservoir in the tome arm itself...?

In a message dated 11/5/2006 2:58:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Mechanical Music of S.F." <mechanicalmusic at hotmail.com> writes:

>WHOA! Relax.
>
>It was already explained a day or 2 ago.
>Seeburg redesigned the tonearm for the SS160 model year to accomidate the 
>new cartridge, and found it to be defective.  It was painted red.
>Not ALL red Seeburg tonearms are bad, jut the ones in the SS160 if they are 
>red and original to the machine.  They leak their damping fulid.
>You can identify them by
>A. Being red, and
>B. Being for the later style cartridge.
>
>Previous machines had red tonearms but were for the previous T needle 
>cartridge.
>
>Subsequent arms for the new cartridge were painted greenish blue, probably 
>to avoid confusion.  This is what you want in your machine.  A later model 
>blue or unpainted tonearm that accepts the newer cartridge.
>
>Kyle ~
>Mechanical Music of San Francisco
>--------------------------------------------
>Hello, Everyone-
>Okay, I have a friend who owes me a favor and is doing some trouble-shooting
>on my SS-160. Good guy, knows his '40s and '50s jukes quite well and is good
>at what he does (NOT a novice). The deal here is: he's not buying into the 
>red
>tone arm stuff. He has never heard of it, can't understand it, and I'm 
>asking
>him to please, please, PLEASE replace the red tone arm in my SS160. He wants
>to know- why? What is it in the machine that makes me think it needs to be
>replaced? For starters, the previous owner had just replaced the needles for 
>me
>and inside of a half-dozen plays they're already trashed. I ask you guys, 
>please
>tell me the why's, the logistics, the problems in the engineering of the
>dreaded RED TONE ARMS so I can pass all the info along to him and convince 
>him.
>And why RED? What was the deal with the RED? Tell me everything. Replacing 
>the
>cartridge in the same tone arm would just be futile, right? Please help me 
>make
>my case. All your input would be appreciated.
>Many thanks-
>John Hayes
>
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