[Jukebox-list] AMI model K with 'Seeburg Conversion' (???)

[Jens Hultgren]

Paul, I think Norman's right. What you have must be different from what is
described in the bulletin.

It would be interesting to know what ther units are marked (probably a
letter and four digits x-xxxx).
Is there any information in the manual?

 Jens

On 9/21/06, NORMAN MACRAE <nmacrae23 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>   I think you had two options - leaving it as a Seeburg conversion or
> putting it back as original.  I was trying to figure whether having had both
> pulse generator and converter modified to Seeburg, whether the title strip
> index and carousel indices would have needed to have been re-mapped
> (basically I can't remember, on an AMi K, what is the B side of A1 - is it
> B1 or A2?).
>
>   Because you have now rewired the pulse converter you are now neither one
> nor the other - hence you are bound to have anaomalies with
> selections.  Your choice would now seem to be either put the pulse converter
> back to "Seeburg" or put the pulse generator back to "AMi".
>
>   I've maybe confused the issue a bit but to answer your question, the
> reason for these conversions would have been to use the machine with Seeburg
> wallboxes as Jens indicated.  But I don't think that the jukebox would have
> been purely a hideaway - because in that case the pulse generator would not
> have required conversion because that part would never be used.
>
>   Norman.
>
> Jens Hultgren <drjukebox at gmail.com> wrote:
>   Service bulletin #124 dated June 26, 1956
>
> Subject: H-1968 conversion kit for modifying the AMI G-200 phonograph to
> operate with Seeburg Wall Boxes.
>
> This is to make the jukebox compatible with 3W1 and 3WA wallboxes.
>
> H-1909 pulse generator marked Seeburg Conversion
> F-2955 Switch assembly
> F-2196 electrlytic capacitor
> S-106K carbon resistor 1/2 watt
> F-2591 Instruction sheet (this was later updated to F2591-A as per service
> bulletin #131)
>
> So the system has been changed quite a bit. I would recommend getting an
> original pulse converter and taking out the added components. Easiest
> would
> be to compare side by side with a non-modified machine.
>
> But your setup may be different, since the AMI K120 has another selection
> system. There is no info on this in the Service Bulletins what I can see.
> What are the markings on the pulse generator?
>
> I think I have some "Seeburg conversion" marked parts on the shelves.
>
> jens
> On 9/20/06, Paul Taylor
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm restoring an AMI model K 120 electric select. The covers to the
> > pulse generator and pulse converter are stamped with the wording:
> > 'Seeburg Conversion' I didn't think anything of this until I tested a
> > few selections and found they were completely haywire. I already have
> > an earlier AMI model i 120 and noticed the wiring was different on
> > the pulse converter around the stepper unit home switches and the
> > transfer relay so I rewired the K pulse converter to match. The
> > selections follow a different pattern now but are still not correct.
> > Currently the letter stepper doesn't seem to advance beyond 'A' and
> > gives the following pattern:
> >
> > Press A1 you get A1
> > Press B1 you get A2
> > Press C1 you get A3 etc
> >
> > Press B2 you get A3
> > Press C2 you get A4
> > Press D2 you get A5 and so on
> >
> > Presumably the pulse generator wiring needs to be altered too.
> >
> > What was the idea behind this? Would this machine have been used as a
> > hide-away servicing Seeburg wallboxes? Has anyone encountered this
> > problem in having to rewire the pulse gen. and pulse converter to
> > make the machine work correctly of its own button bank? Thanks for
> > any responses.
> >
> > Paul in the U.K.
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