[Jukebox-list] Bad seller on ebay

[John Robertson]

Scott Cummings wrote:
> Just as a point of clarification, as I do a lot of business on eBay and
> use PayPal as well here is the deal-
> Ebay offers no real "protection".  In the event of a dispute they will
> try to mediate but as no finds move through them between parties there
> is nothing for them to really offer.  PayPal (owned by eBay as you
> noted) offers buyer protection, as long as you're not using a credit
> card.  If you are using your checking account or have finds in your
> PayPal account then you are covered by PayPal, but their system even
> notifies you when you select credit card as your payment method that you
> are not protected by PayPal.
>
> Just clearing that up.
>
>   
Yes, be careful with people that use credit cards on Paypal and seem a 
bit dodgy. I have lost (so far) $4000US by a customer that bought our 
NOS game, then bought a used game from someone else (same model) then 
showed the used game to the 'inspector' and got a refund from the credit 
card company - then they shipped us the used game at our expense! Both 
of the games were sold on eBay (one by us the other a a third party) and 
our customer paid us with PayPal but used their credit card to make the 
payment THROUGH PayPal. I should have told them to make the payment 
directly to us as we accept credit cards, but wasn't being careful enough.

Sigh.

Still working on that one...these clowns were from Parker Colorado.

John :-#(#
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey McDonald [mailto:joe400f at shaw.ca] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:26 PM
> To: Jukebox mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Bad seller on ebay
>
>
> JC,
> sorry to hear you are having troubles with this seller. I had no trouble
> myself with some AMI parts I bought.  I did offer to give you his
> contact information myself.
>
> I had trouble with a seller a couple of years ago before Pay Pal became
> popular.  I don't know Pay Pal policy but I am sure they will back you.
> As far as Ebay, they will do nothing.
>
> I always use Pay Pal now for buying. Nothing else. Also, register a
> credit card with your Pay Pal account and use that for paying. The
> credit card companies also offer purchase protection.
>
> Also, check with the seller before buying. I always ask a question of
> some kind to get a response from a seller. No replies, NO BUY no matter
> how good the deal looks. Also research the feedback profile.  Put that
> seller on your blocked bidders list to avoid future deals and
> retaliation against you. They will not be able to bid on anything you
> sell.
>
> Joey McDonald
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jjmscf at aol.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2007 10:52 am
> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Was  SS 160 Front Glass.Bad seller on ebay
> To: jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com
> Cc: Jjmscf at aol.com
>
>   
>>  
>> I got his contact information from ebay. The no. is
>> disconnected.I sent 2 
>> more emails with no reply. I filed a paypal dispute and no reply 
>> so today I filed 
>> a claim and gave  steelbear.123 what he deserved  a 
>> negative feedback.
>>  
>> Unfortunately like a dummy I grabbed some SS 160 titleholders no
>> one bid on 
>> and didn't pay attention to  who the seller was  in 
>> the meantime because they 
>> were so cheap. I probably won't get them either.He's gotten 9 
>> negatives 
>> including mine in the last month.All items not received.I paid 
>> him on Oct 11th so Dec 
>> 5th is definitely too long with no item and no contact since Nov 
>> 2nd.I loathe 
>> to give a negative but when they deserve it they get it.At least 
>> so far he 
>> hasn't given retaliatory feedback. I hope I'm not the 1st as I 
>> have a perfect 
>> 100% feedback.
>>  
>> J.C.
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated 11/21/2007 8:26:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> joe400f at shaw.ca writes:
>>
>>     
>>> Hey JC,
>>>       
>>> I bought some items from steelbear 123.  I have his
>>>       
>> contact information.
>>     
>>> I don't think you got burned. He is just slow to ship. He has
>>>       
>> good feedback.
>>     
>>> The no reply to emails is odd because I had good communications
>>>       
>> with him.
>>     
>>> I bought a bunch of AMI G80 parts.
>>>       
>>> Contact me directly for the contact info.
>>>       
>>> Joey McDonald
>>>       
>>
>>
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