[Jukebox-list] Rockola 1438 Slug Ejector Problem

[Jay Hennigan]

Aaron Heverin wrote:
> That's a point I've always tried to make with clients who purchased AMIs from me in the past. I realize that putting a jukebox on free-play is a convenience - and a way to "buck the system" by getting something for free that you never would have been able to get had the jukebox been on location. But free-play takes away one aspect of the jukebox that makes it such a charm to have in a home. That "Select" light comes on after you drop in your coin as a way of saying "I'm at your disposal. Play me." I've got a jukebox here at my office that I put on freeplay only because my other co-workers were complaining that they never had enough change to play it. :)

If there isn't anything else coin-op nearby, a bowl of nickels next to 
the juke that get recycled might work.

Another compromise is to install a hidden free-play button and leave the 
coin gear intact.  I've rigged microswitches to the "scavenger" button 
for this purpose.

> Which brings me to a question I'd like to ask - since we're on the topic of the National slug rejectors. My AMI G-120 had the living piss beaten out of it this past holiday season with all of the parties we had. It's currently set up to take dimes (for 1 play) and quarters (for 3 plays). I realize that I can tinker with the settings within the AMI's credit unit to get more plays for dimes and quarters, but is there anything that can be done to the National rejector so that it can take a nickel? Many of my older jukeboxes all take nickels so I have thousands of them in all of the cups we have scattered around the house. I was running out of dimes and quarters for the G and had to keep opening it to empty the cashbox! I just thought it would be neat to have the thing accept a nickel. Any way to do this without major surgery? In restoring a juke, I was always more concerned about making the slug rejectors work properly and never gave a thought to "retro fitting" one. Was there
 a
>   part that was removed from the rejector so that a nickel would just drop right out?

Most of the National rejectors have the same basic mechanism and will 
take nickels, dimes, and quarters.  Are there three coin paddle switches 
on your G-120?

Some of the rejectors had an added little flipper mech at the very 
bottom to accommodate 10-cent pricing.  The first nickel would get 
trapped in a little pocket.  Depositing a second nickel would cause both 
nickels to drop into the coin box.  Both nickels dumped right in 
sequence so the paddle switch only operated once.  With this arrangement 
the nickel and dime switches could be wired in parallel, either a dime 
or two nickels would give one pulse.  As I recall, you can rig these for 
single-nickel operation by moving a screw.

This style was kind of an interim thing.  They started out simple with 
one switch for each coin, then went to the nickel-flipper, then back to 
the original style when the vending and jukebox makers went to more 
sophisticated means of price setting (Playrak, etc.)

> What was that old school of thought?...."you can't buy a cup of coffee for a nickel any more so why should you get a tune out of a jukebox for the same amount?"

Your mech should be capable of accepting nickels.  It is likely out of 
adjustment or someone hacked it up to reject nickels when the juke was 
converted to dime play on location.

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