[Jukebox-list] Rockola 1438 Slug Ejector Problem
Jackie
etreble7 at verizon.net
Thu Jan 4 10:47:06 PST 2007
Dave,
I'm with ya!
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Rockola 1438 Slug Ejector Problem
> All
>
> Having watched the Email tennis I've noticed hardly anyone agrees with
> anyone on why they own a juke either golden, silver, or later. I suspect
> most of us just want to both play them and look at them all lit up.
> If Joe Public (thats me) buys one we want to have the coin op section work
> so that we feel we are getting our moneys worth 'just in case' so we shy
> away from those missing a cion mech an so they go much cheaper. Then once
> we've played it a while we decide free play is easiest after all.
> Ex and current coin-op folk prefer everything to work, because it should
> do, it's your job after all ;o)
> Personally (see, I'm not immune) I fail to see the point of a brand new
> 1940s machine, would anyone have the Mona Lisa repainted to make it worth
> more?
>
> So live and let live, does it matter what reason as long as someone keeps
> vinyl boxes working somehow & saves more from the bonfire. Thought that
> was
> what this list was all about.
>
> Dave H
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> "Wesley Dean"
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> Jay, whether or not you are in the business of selling jukes does not
> matter. But if do sell, you are forcing your beliefs and prejudices on
> your
> customers.
> Vintage collectible units do not fall in this category. They are
> generally considered an investment and are not used for entertainment. I
> doubt you will ever see a Wurlitzer 950 being used at a Saturday night
> party. I agree that any piece that qualifies at a 100 point restoration
> cannot be modified in any manner.
> We have just about beat this poor old horse to death with no resolution
> in sight. Let's call it a truce and speak no more of our differences. Wes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Hennigan" <jay at west.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Rockola 1438 Slug Ejector Problem
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>> The Jukebox Junkyard wrote:
>>> Jay, from your comments about my message about performance, you are
>>> inferring that for the sake of reliability I would replace the original
>>> amplifier with some junk from Radio Shack. You are misconstruing
>>> unconventional methods of increasing performance with 'butchering'.
>>
>> No, I'm just pointing out the different philosophy. Coin operation is
>> an elemental part of a jukebox. Disabling it detracts from the fun of
>> jukebox ownership. Would you also disable coin operation if restoring a
>> vintage Coke machine? If you do so, you turn it into a common
>> refrigerator.
>>
>>> I
>>> believe performance was an ever changing evolution in the state of the
>>> art. Witness the fact early juke amplifiers had no ALC, but later was
>>> incorporated as standard circuitry that was accepted by all
>>> manufacturers and customers.
>>
>> So was the ability to play compact disks, but there are limits...
>>
>>> I consider it a dis-service to your
>>> customers not to provide all such improvements in old obsolete
>>> equipment. Our customers bask in the knowledge of having a piece of
>>> equipment that has no compromises for the sake of purity and
> originality.
>>
>> I would not be pleased to find an original Wurlitzer 1015 or 1100
>> amplifier modified with extra holes for tube sockets to accommodate
>> aftermarket home-brewed ALC.
>>
>>> I daresay you have never been on a call where the coin box was
>>> neglected and the compartment, money bag, coin switches and slug
>>> rejector had chock full of coins and had jammed all the coin switches
>>> and smoked all the add credit coins.
>>
>> I've dealt with burned-out credit coils, but don't consider such to be a
>> very common problem. A slow-blow fuse or PTC resistor is a quick fix.
>> On location, the coin box is probably the least neglected part of any
>> jukebox.
>>
>>> I have no quarrel for originality in its place. Think museums only. I
>
>>> believe you will find these pieces roped off and not exposed to the
>>> whims of the viewing public. Wes
>>
>> Funny, I see coin-operated vending machines in some pretty rough outdoor
>> environments a lot more often than roped off in museums. I've also
>> noticed plenty of coin-operated video games and the like in rather
>> non-museum-like locations. Many of them still use a variant of the same
>> National rejectors found on vintage jukeboxes.
>>
>> I don't think that the coin and credit system is by any means more
>> fragile than the rest of the working parts of any jukebox, and consider
>> coin operation to be an essential part of the jukebox experience.
>>
>> Having the box on coin also slows down the problem of visitors punching
>> dozens of selections when they aren't going to be around to listen to
>> them, and helps with issues of latch bar solenoids being permanently
>> energized as is often the case with simple free-play mods. (Yes, I know
>> you make a box to time out the latch solenoid, but not everyone does it
>> this way.)
>>
>> Again, for convenience, a hidden credit button is a good compromise.
>>
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