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[Karl]

Wes,
THAT's the part I don't quite get......storing the pulses in the stepping 
switches. I have never fiddled with a wall box or stepper of any kind so 
it's all new to me but I am slowly starting to get a general sense of it. 
Thanks,


Karl
Columbus Coin-Op Shop
Columbus, GA 31903
(706) 507-2963
2061 S. Lumpkin Rd.





Columbus, GA 31903
(706) 507-2963
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wesley Dean" <wesleydean at cox.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:21 PM
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    Karl, the pulses received from the generator are not immediately used, 
but are stored in the stepping switches until the information is needed in 
the
'search' mode. At this point, it works lake a later model search unit. The 
later  models directly access the keyboard information to operate the search 
unit, a much simpler system if it had been manufactured on a larger and less 
tolerant scale.
    The motive on the earlier models, starting with the G-200 and continuing 
through the model I was to eliminate the need for an outboard stepper for 
remotes to be connected to. The engineers realized the error of their ways 
and removed the pulse generator from the Models I, Lyric and Continentals. 
These models require an optional stepper needed to use if remotes are to be 
used.
    The basic problems with these early models is that the average 
technician has not grasped the concept. The best way to understand this 
system is to think hideaways and wall boxes manufactured by everyone. Wes
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl" <karlh44 at knology.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:09 AM
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> Thanks Ron,
> I'm reading, reading, and re-reading the manual trying to grasp the 
> concept.
> It's greek to me but slowly making a bit of sense. I can understand the
> pulse generator a lot easier than the converter for some reason.
>
>
> Karl
> Columbus Coin-Op Shop
> Columbus, GA 31903
> (706) 507-2963
> 2061 S. Lumpkin Rd.
>
>
>
>
>
> Columbus, GA 31903
> (706) 507-2963
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Rich" <ronnnrich at yahoo.com>
> To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] (no subject)
>
>
>> Karl,
>>  Those models operate just like a  'remote wallbox". They have a "pulse
>> generator" and a "pulse converter".  The generator is what is found in a
>> wallbox (or, in this case, the "selector" inside these model phono's. It
>> "pulses" various times depending on the letter number combination
>> selected. The "converter" is called a "stepper" by most other brands. It
>> follows the pulses (or "steps-up") and "converts" it into a form that can
>> then be used to "pull" the selected pin. Different companies used
>> different "pulse trains" to achieve this, but they all used two "stepper
>> gears" (or "wheels") and sliding contacts, of some type, to "matrix" the
>> info.
>>  It sounds like the "alignment" may be slightly off, or one or more of 
>> the
>> sliding contacts on the rear of the converter are bent/broken.
>>  Hope that clears it up--a little. Ron Rich
>>
>> Karl <karlh44 at knology.net> wrote:
>>  Well, I wound up with this AMI Model H. I have gotten most things to 
>> work
>> on it but I am having trouble with the selection system. It will Select
>> the correct record for letters A & B and E & F but not C & D. I have the
>> manual but I am having a hard time understanding the "Pulse" concept. It
>> sounds like it allows the converter to rotate longer or shorter depending
>> on the letter/number chosen??? I admit this is probably fairly elementary
>> to those who know these older jukeboxes, but I don't. if I understood 
>> what
>> is supposed to happen, I'd probably stand a better chance of figuring out
>> why it isn't happening...hehehe. Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Karl
>> Columbus Coin-Op Shop
>> Columbus, GA 31903
>> (706) 507-2963
>> 2061 S. Lumpkin Rd.
>>
>>
>>
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