[Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G

[Don]

Hey Wes,
My question was HOW did you do that repair. Did you have someone make a 
replacement gear....?
Don


----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G


>    Don, I never replaced the white gear with another white one. I may be 
> ignorant but not stupid. Wes
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don" <dontutt at telus.net>
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> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G
>
>
> Thanks Dean,
> Kinda thought so.
> Do you have a good guy to supply you with new gears or do you take them 
> from
> parted out jukes?
> It seems in this case putting in a used gear of the same material is just
> buying a little time til the same thing happens again.
> Seems better over the long run to have a  metal replacement made.
> I had good service from ArcadiaPrecisionClockwork.com in Arizona
> He rebuilt two gears for me. In that case I was replacing phenolic with
> brass.
> Don
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wesley Dean" <wesleydean at cox.net>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G
>
>
>>    Don, the only reason I could think of was the material the gear was 
>> made of was unstable as opposed to phenolic. This problem was more 
>> noticeable with offset red head needles.  When replacing the gear, I had 
>> also change the worm. This problem caused only flutter, no wow. Wow is 
>> caused by an unstable turntable speed. Flutter is caused by vibrations at 
>> specific passages of the tune. Wes
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Don" <dontutt at telus.net>
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>> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G
>>
>>
>> Wes,
>> You have me curious.
>> Why would a "white" main gear cause this problem....?
>> Don, the juke student
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "The Jukebox Junkyard" <jukeboxjunkyard at cox.net>
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>> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G
>>
>>
>>>     I have seen this caused by a white main gear. Wes
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dicecco, Michael" <michael.dicecco at rbc.com>
>>> To: <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:45 PM
>>> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Wow and Flutter Sound in Seeburg G
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've got a Seeburg G (with a C mech) that's had a problem with the sound
>>> since I bought it in 1990. The problem is best described as "wow and
>>> flutter". It is most noticable on sustained notes, such as a piano
>>> passage, and affects all records equally. To me it clearly sounds like a
>>> mechanical (as opposed to amplifier issue... the amp has been fully
>>> recapped).
>>>
>>> I have changed the motor coupling, lubricated all moving parts, and
>>> checked the motor rubber mounts (no improvement).
>>>
>>> I'm not certain if the turntable mounts have been changed or not. There
>>> is some slight flexing of the turntable, but it is not sloppy or loose.
>>>
>>> The only other thing I can think of is the motor capacitor, as it is
>>> original (would this cause the problem?)
>>>
>>> Other than this sound issue, the box works great.
>>>
>>> Can anyone give me some suggestions as to what might be causing this
>>> warbly type sound?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>
>>> Mike
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