[Jukebox-list] cashboxes?

[John Robertson]

Ron Rich wrote:
> Jim,
>   Thankx--that partly confirms the stories that I heard. I have heard that the number of "diverted" coins was "adjustable". I just have no idea how this was accomplished. I have also heard that some operators used this as some sort of "scam"--jipping the location out of their share--I have no idea if that's true or false--Ron Rich
>
> dirksenj at bellsouth.net wrote:
>   Hi Ron - while I'm not on par with Wes and Charlie, I am familiar with 
> Rock-olas, mainly because as a young collector (with little play money), I 
> had to "settle" for a 1940 Super instead of the Wurlitzer 750 I so badly 
> wanted. Same reason I got a 1448 instead of a V200. But anyway, I've seen 
> some literature on this setup - the coin system would divert every other 
> nickel (that may have been adjustable to every third, fourth, or fifth - I 
> just don't know) to a seperate cashbox for the location owner. There is a 
> photo in 'Jukebox Saturday Night' on page 59 showing such a set-up - you can 
> see the location owner's cashbox way over on the left of the machine. Notice 
> the photo caption is wrong - this is a Master model instead of a '39 Deluxe. 
> I can't imagine this option being very popular with operators.
>
> Jim Dirksen
>   
If there is literature to support this I would be happy to host it on 
flippers in the jukebox section!

The "diverter" on the coin acceptor was designed to count alternating 
nickles as a dime. 2 X 5c = 10c. This came in when the 10c play started 
to become popular and enabled the reduction in the number of coils in 
the coin acceptor. Plus the play meter would show the correct number of 
plays if a dime was the minimum credit per play.

The Rockola shown in the picture in JBSN is a standard machine that used 
three separate coin mechanisms to count the value of the coins and they 
would then roll down sideways (in a tube) to the cashbox on the left 
side. However most early (up to 1948) machines had the cashbox inside 
the machine and you would access it from the front door.

I have never seen nor heard of a 'dual cashbox' in my thirty-odd years 
of jukebox work. If an operator wanted to cheat a location it was far 
easier to simply disable the coin meter (if there was one) or pocket 
some coin before counting it.

John :-#)#

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Rich" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:20 AM
> Subject: [Jukebox-list] cashboxes?
>
>
>   
>> Hi All,
>> There is an ad in AJ that speaks of the "rare dual cashbox" in a 1939 
>> RockOla. I have never seen that arrangement, and wonder if anyone else has 
>> seen it and can explain how it was supposed to work. I have heard some 
>> "stories" about that--but never "first hand" stories. Sure miss Wes, and 
>> Charlie--bet one of them could have answered this--- Ron Rich
>>     


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