[Jukebox-list] 147 and 148

[Jens Hultgren]

They went gradualy from wood cabinets to metal. The 146 had a wooden door,
which was mostly updated with the metal door from the 147. Early 147 are
wood, later are metal.
All 148 I have seen were blonde metal, with the fluted dome.
But I know from experience that you can sometimes find deviations from the
regular. I think they simply sold what they had in stock, and if the year
was 1948 but they still had some darkgrained cabinets, they wouldn't bother
to redo them blonde and certainly not scrap them because they were the wrong
colour - they would sell them anyway. Likewise I wouldn't be surprised if
there are a few blonde 147s out there.
So - there are blonde 1426 Rockolas and dark 1428s - but they are not
common. The blonde grained 1426 I saw (grained just like a 1428) culd even
have been the only one.

  Jens

On 11/20/07, Stamann <stamann at jukebox-world.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Ron,
>
> thanks for your answer and thoughts.
>
> That means at least there was a blonde 147, too? The manual - though the
> pictures are only in b&w - shows only a dark cabinet for the 147 and a
> blonde for the 148.
>
> The funny thing is that in our serial number database we have a later 147
> serial number than the first listed 148 number. This is what we could
> collect so far:
> 147: #136618 - #156825
> 148: #155601 - #170587
> On TomsZone it is about the same.
>
> Maybe Seeburg did not give the serial numbers in a chronological order and
> started an earlier number on a new model? I know they are strange on other
> models.
>
> Are there any things which make sure a model is a 147 or a 148? Something
> which cannot be intermixed?
>
> Kind regards - Hildegard
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Stamann Musikboxen - Schafskamp 2 - D-27243 Klein Henstedt -
> www.jukebox-world.de - stamann at jukebox-world.de
> Tel.: (++49) 04224/264, Fax: (++49) 04224-1348, Ust.Id.Nr. DE 249241577
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: jukebox-list-bounces at lists.netlojix.com [mailto:
> jukebox-list-bounces at lists.netlojix.com] Im Auftrag von Ron Rich
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. November 2007 11:58
> An: Jukebox mailing list
> Betreff: Re: [Jukebox-list] 147 and 148
>
> Hi Hildegard,
>   Just guessing--I was not around in those days--but I would guess that
> the "A" probably either stood for a metal cabinet or the "blonde" colored
> cabinet. I don't think that they made both the 147 and 148 at the same time.
> It's my understanding that the 147 wood cabinets were the earlier
> production, with the metal cabinets being the later version.  (Someone told
> me that the reason for the metal cabinets was that Seeburg aquired "tons" of
> metal on the surplus market--cheeeeeeep). Ron Rich
>
> Stamann <stamann at jukebox-world.de> wrote:
>   Hello Everybody,
>
> we got an email from US regarding a Seeburg Trashcan. The owner says it is
> a 148 but now found out that the ID plate days it is a 147SA. It has a
> blonde metal cabinet, the 148 dome and the animation kit at the bottom with
> the spinning color wheel that reflects off the glitter on the grill cloth.
> The serial number is #157809 so that would match both the 147 and 148.
> My questions are:
> Was there a blonde 147 available, too?
> Did Seeburg built the 147 and 148 parallel for some time?
>
> >From a former post here I saved this answer by Ron Rich regarding the
> letters on the 147:
> "The letters at the end stand for the type of "selection receiver" (or
> "control center") that the machine was equipped with at the factory.
> S is for "solenoid drum assembly" - no Wallboxes M is for " Master
> Selection Receiver" - Wired or Wireless Wallboxes W is for "Wired Selection
> Receiver" - Wired Wallboxes only"
>
> So now I wonder about the SA with the 147. Does the "A" in the model
> number mean the metal cabinet?
>
> Thanks in davance - Hildegard
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Stamann Musikboxen - Schafskamp 2 - D-27243 Klein Henstedt -
> www.jukebox-world.de - stamann at jukebox-world.de
> Tel.: (++49) 04224/264, Fax: (++49) 04224-1348, Ust.Id.Nr. DE 249241577
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jukebox-list mailing list
> Jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com
> http://lists.netlojix.com/mailman/listinfo/jukebox-list
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See
> how.
> _______________________________________________
> Jukebox-list mailing list
> Jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com
> http://lists.netlojix.com/mailman/listinfo/jukebox-list
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Jukebox-list mailing list
> Jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com
> http://lists.netlojix.com/mailman/listinfo/jukebox-list
>



-- 
"There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth.
And no one is lying."  Bob Evans