[Jukebox-list] NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Rock-ola 450 & 454

[Stewart]

Thanks Ron...
I just got the service manual, so hopefully that will help me out. So, I 
tried what you suggested (flipping the pin by hand). On the 450, the record 
was grabbed and it plays! As for the 454, nothing occurs.
The gripper arm on the 454 is located in the same spot as the 450. It's 
sitting directly above the record basket, in it's neutral/starting location.

Thanks!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Rich" <ronnnrich at yahoo.com>
To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Rock-ola 450 & 454


> Hi,
>  My first suggestion for any "newbie" is to purchase a service manual. 
> This will not only help you in determining where the problem lies, but 
> will also allow you to communicate to others using common language, thus 
> inproving your chances of getting an explaination, that will help. Manuals 
> are available from www.alwaysjukin.com and other sources.
>  I would suggest that those models are probably close enough in time that 
> either manual should be OK.
>  On both models, if you flip a selector pin by hand (on the large round 
> "pinbank" on the right side), will the scan motor (the one that runs the 
> record basket) move?
>  On the 454, where is the gripper arm (the part that moves the records 
> to/from the basket)?
>  Ron Ric
>
> Stewart <stewmac1 at shaw.ca> wrote:
>  Hi,
> First off, I am brand new to the jukebox scene, so I have very little 
> knowledge on the subject and zero experience. I just purchased a couple of 
> Jukeboxes, both Rock-olas (model 450 & 454). They both power up and seem 
> to have some mechanical functions, but they don't pick up a record and 
> play it. I was hoping someone might have some suggestions as to what I can 
> try to get them playing.. Here's a bit of info about them:
>
> 450:
> -Unit is complete with all parts.
> -When flicking the Scan/Off/Operate switch the selector, carousel and 
> turntable will spin around.
> -When selecting a track via the buttons, nothing occurs.
>
> 454:
> -Unit is complete with all parts.
> -When flicking the Scan/Off/Operate switch only the turntable will spin 
> around.
> -When selecting a track via the buttons, the selector spins for a while, 
> then seems to time out and nothing happens beyond this point.
>
> If anyone has any insight as to what I might be able to try to get these 
> machines up and running, please reply.
>
> Thanks!
> StewMac
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