[Jukebox-list]-WAS- AMI I-200

[John Robertson]

Ron Rich wrote:
> Sorry guys--having computer problems--last message I attempted to send would not go--this one went when I changed the subject--before I could type anything ??
>   Any way, I have always avoided working on pins--but I do know that most of the guys around here carried both the 44 and 47, and it seemed that they pretty much interchanged them in pins. 
>   Also, I remember the Bally Pinball "campaign" where they were touting the # 555 as "--the end to pinball light (or lamp)  problems---" So, unless John's chart is wrong, they were "not quite telling the truth'?, as #44 and 555's are listed as the same bulb--different socket??
>
>   
The 'problem' that Bally was speaking about was the lamp socket failure, 
not the brightness of the bulbs (#555 was the same brightness and 
current as the #44). Everyone that restores older pinballs knows about 
bad bayonet sockets....

Also operators and distributors in the know preferred the #47 as it 
reduced current and thus connectors lasted longer. However in pop 
bumpers (for example) the #44 tends to last longer due to a thicker 
filament than the #47.

Now, what this has to do with jukeboxes is starting to elude me - there 
are pinball newsgroups and mail lists for this sort of discussion - as 
far as jukeboxes go the #44 is fine, and a #47 will work as well, just a 
bit dimmer, but it is also a bit cooler.

John :-#)#
> David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
> --- John Robertson 
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Not to go too far off-topic, but, no, the #47 was not the standard.
>> The 
>> manufacturers all used #44s for the brighter appearance. Operators 
>> discovered that one could use the #47 and WICO (and other
>> suppliers) started to carry them.
>>     
>
> Well, I must admit I've only worked on a couple dozen pinball
> machines, and the neweest ones were 2-3 years old when I got
> to them (the oldest being 5-10 years old) in the late 70s, but
> I've *never* seen a #44 bulb in a machine - never. Based on
> what you say, that suggests a startlingly aggressive and
> thorough regimen of bulb substitution on the part of operators,
> bolstered by the fact that the Gottlieb and Bally distributors
> at the time only sold #47 bulbs for this application. An
> interesting situation. Either way, based on sales practices,
> #47 is far and away the accepted standard of the last couple
> decades.
>
>
> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
>
>   


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