[Jukebox-list] seeburg entertainer selection problem

[d rakowski]

Jeremy,
Actually it is not a board but a small rectangular box containing three 
relays and a resistor. Two of these relays are interconnected and one of 
these two releases the other when it is energized. I can send a photo if it 
will be of help. The part number of the assembly is 40697-4a. If I can even 
get one in a year close to 1978 it will likely have useable relays in it. 
The relay that I need is energized the whole time the record is in play 
position and that is probably why it has gone open. Currently the breaker 
trips as soon as the record goes into play since the gripper motor never 
shuts off and goes into overload.
Thanks a lot for taking the time to get involved.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Agema" <jeremy at dwave.net>
To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] seeburg entertainer selection problem


>I just might (no way to test if it works though). Can you get me the part
> number on the board?
>
> Thanks
> Jeremy Agema
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:07:50 -0500, d rakowski wrote
>> Hi Jeremy,
>> Thanks for taking the time to reply. I forgot about the black boxes
>> in the consolettes. I have 4 in my attic and when I can remove
>> enough stuff from below the attic stairs I will take one down and
>> substitute it's black box into the entertainer and see what happens.
>> I also have a Rockola 474 that needs a Control Box Assembly. It sits
>> under the front of the mechanism behind the popularity counter
>> assembly and contains the dc interlock relays. Do you have one or
>> can you steer me to someone who does? I tried ebay but haven't had
>> any luck yet. Good day to you, Dave
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jeremy Agema" <jeremy at dwave.net>
>> To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] seeburg entertainer selection problem
>>
>> > Dave, I have a pile of black boxes (from DEC consolettes) if you want 
>> > to
>> > purchase one (cheap) let me know.
>> >
>> > Tony's book on the black and gray boxes is top notch and Ron's book for
>> > troubleshooting the Microlog system is excellent. I would recommend 
>> > both
>> > especially since you have two jukes - a third could find you any day!
>> >
>> > Jeremy Agema
>> >
>> > On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:30:42 -0500, d rakowski wrote
>> >> Hello All,
>> >> First I'd like to express my thanks to all who helped with
>> >> suggestions to improve the sound quality of my Seeburg L. The amp
>> >> had been complely recapped and out of tolerance resistors replaced
>> >> as necessary. Suggestions to have the speakers re-coned and to clean
>> >> all the contacts of the mech and amplifier boards as well as those
>> >> push-in pin connectors (volume,mech plug) with "Deoxit" made a
>> >> marked improvement. If I might I'd like to put in a plug for Miller
>> >> Sound in Pennsylvania who reconed my speakers. Their work is
>> >> professional, quality with quick turn-around. My question for this
>> >> post is I have a Seeburg Entertainer of the 70's. As such it uses
>> >> black and gray boxes, a digital control center and a keypad in it's
>> >> selection and credit system. The machine is on free play, and the
>> >> lights saying select any single and select any album are lit. When
>> >> the first two numbers are entered lights saying first digit selected,
>> >>  second digit selected should light while the third number entered
>> >> should cause the mechanism to scan and select the record. None of
>> >> these lights light so essentially there is no response from the
>> >> selection system at all. A scan card has been substituted into the
>> >> control center, the gray box has been swapped and the keyboard has
>> >> also been swapped but with no change occuring. If I charge the
>> >> tormat with a 1.5 volt battery and cause the mechanism to scan it
>> >> will select all selections so the read out system is working
>> >> properly. I was thinking of replacing the black box and about to
>> >> commence a search of ebay for one. Would this be a probable
>> >> solution? Should I be considering other possibilities? Thanks in
>> >> advance for any help. Dave Rakowski
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