[Jukebox-list] !!!! POSSIBLE ONGOING CRAIGSLIST SCAM !!!!
William Hill
william_hill at sbcglobal.net
Thu Mar 20 10:11:49 PST 2008
It's ABSOLUTELY a scam. Don't think twice about it!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Automatic Music" <jrutoskey at yahoo.com>
To: "Jukebox mailing list" <jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] !!!! POSSIBLE ONGOING CRAIGSLIST SCAM !!!!
>
> I recently responded to a post on Craigslist offering
> a Wurlitzer 1500 in Delaware for $1000.00. I asked if
> the machine was still available, and if so, when could
> I could come to look at it. Delaware is close to
> Baltimore, so I thought I'd take a ride. Besides, the
> photographs of the machine looked pretty good. I was
> pretty sure I'd bring it home.
>
> Later that day, here is the email I received from
> mwbbr at yahoo.com:
>
>
> Hi,
> Thank you for your email. I still have it for sale.
> Right now i am gone in my honeymoon in Hawaii but i
> hope that`s not going to be a problem because i can
> still handle the transaction. When i left in my
> honeymoon, i left the item along with several other
> items in the custody of The Online Outpost because i
> wanted to sell them on eBay when i return, but
> something came up back home, something wrong with my
> mom and i decided to sell this one before i get back
> but not on ebay because i need to sell it faster. So
> if you are still interested let me know because i can
> make the transaction immediately. Just let me know and
> i will explain
> all the details of the transaction...
> Thanks
>
>
> Right away I smelled trouble, and so for grins I wrote
> him back saying that I couldn't possibly pay for a
> machine that I haven't seen, especially when it was
> that close by (actually I HAVE paid for machines I
> haven't seen-- but that's another story, and the owner
> USUALLY knows WHERE the machine is, ISN'T in Hawaii
> "at this time", has some known credibility, and sends
> me his personal information beforehand). I told him
> that if he could tell me when I can come to see it,
> that if all was good I'd buy it right there and take
> it home with me. I think I even said something about
> how I found it incredulous that he didn't know where
> the machine was, but I don't remember. At any rate,
> here was mwbbr at yahoo.com's overly wordy, and somewhat
> I would guess intentionally confusing reply to me:
>
>
> Hello again,
> As i said in my first email i will explain how The
> Online Outpost works because i want you to be clear on
> every aspect of this transaction. They are one of the
> best eBay selling services. You simply drop an item to
> one of their stores or they pick it up from your home
> ,you find a buyer and they will take care of the rest.
> When i went to Hawaii i left 4 items for sale in their
> custody, they picked them up from my home so don`t ask
> at what store, or where the item is exactly because i
> don`t know...as long as they are handling the shipping
> and handling i don`t care where they are. I forgot to
> mention that the shipping is included in the price of
> sale. They offered me a discount on shipping because i
> am selling a large number of items and i can afford
> that.
> So basically they have the item insured and ready for
> shipping. As soon as i will have your shipping details
> i will send it to them and they will start the
> transaction. They will email you with an invoice and
> payment instructions. You will have to send the
> payment to one of their agents by following the
> payment instructions. Then you will send the payment
> details to them, they will validate the transaction
> and will start the shipping ASAP. If you will have
> questions you can ask them directly.
> Unfortunately the pick up is not possible because this
> is an urgent sale (like i said before i intended to
> sell this on eBay when i should have returned from
> Hawaii but due to some recent problems back home i am
> forced to sell it now). The Online Outpost suggested
> to offer a return policy because my offers would
> substantially increase so i am offering a 10 day
> guarantee. This eliminates the pick up option but you
> will have the time to inspect it and decide if you
> want it or not. If for any reason you decide not to
> keep it, they will give you a full refund and will
> return the item on my expense.
> So if you agree with this terms and decide to proceed,
> then i will need your full name and shipping address
> in order to start the transaction.
> As soon as i receive this details from you i will
> forward them to The Online Outpost exactly as you sent
> them.
> Thank you
>
>
> After this, I wrote back and told him it was for the
> Conference room of the Maryland State Police Barracks,
> I never heard another word.
>
> By the way, what's he doing in Hawaii with so many
> problems at home? :)
>
> John D. Rutoskey
> Automatic Music Machines
> Baltimore, Maryland
>
>
>
>
>
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