[Jukebox-list] Rock-ola princess 1493 autospeed

[dvachon]

Hi everyone, well… after a lot of cycle and observe (as I think Kyle suggested to several people, and is a great suggestion), I am finding that the idler wheel is not making contact with the shaft of the motor. What I did was make a selection for a 33 rpm record, after the record landed on the tt, it stopped dead. I took the tt off and I could see the idler wheel did rise up like it supposed to but was a small fraction of an inch away from the shaft of the motor. If I pushed on the part (the wheel sits on) by hand, it would start to spin. Soooo….. what I finally figured out is, I have a bind in there. Something is stopping it from going all the way to the shaft. The springs seem to be ok. So what I decided to do is take it all apart, clean it real good, re-lube it and try again. But first, I noticed the motor grommets are crumbled and hard. I ordered new ones. I have them and am ready to install them. Here is my question. Does the flat side go on the top or bottom? Also, the
metal tubing that goes in the middle. How important are these? If I put the tube in the grommet then put the screw in, it will only go so far. The bottom of the tube is hitting the hole on the motor and the screw is tight against the top. But there is very little or no pressure on the grommet. I tried searching the internet for pictures or instructions on how to install these but could not find anything. Thank you Jim and Adrian for your explanation on how this works. It helped me to figure out what the problem is. Thank you for your help!! I know I will get this working.
Doug

-----Original message-----
From: "Juke of Shrewsbury" jukeofshrewsbury at tiscali.co.uk
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:50:39 -0400
To: "dvachon" dvachon at teksavvy.com, "Jukebox mailing list" jukebox-list at lists.netlojix.com
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Rock-ola princess 1493 autospeed

> The "Automix" as I think Rock-Ola called it, was an option on the Princess. 
> I remember being told that about 20% of them were supplied with it 
> originally. As you have discovered, there is no mention of it in the manual. 
> Under the turntable you should find a mechanism for raising and lowering the 
> idler wheel, depending if the turntable large hole prongs have been pushed 
> down or not. The idler wheel will then move to the other diameter of the 
> stepped motor shaft.  As these mechanisms were rarely used to play 33's you 
> may find that it's just all gummed up and needs a bit of lubrication 
> /cleaning. You could also find that parts of the mechanism have been 
> removed, so that it should play both hole sizes as 45. Over here in the UK 
> most 45's have a small hole so a machine modified in this way avoids the 
> need to cut large holes in your valuable records!
> 
> Let me know if you need photos of what it should look like - I have one in 
> the workshop I could photograph.
> 
> Adrian.
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> From: "dvachon" <dvachon at teksavvy.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:47 AM
> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Rock-ola princess 1493 autospeed
> 
> 
> Hi, I have a rock-ola 1493 that i'm pretty sure plays both 45 and 33 rpm 
> records. The 45's play fine but when I try to play a 33 rpm record, the 
> gripper picks up the record, places it on the turntable then just stops 
> dead. If I push the reject button, it will pick up the record, put it back 
> and the turntable will start to turn again and scan to the next 45 I choose 
> with no problems. I have the manual but it does not mention anything about 
> an autospeed unit. Is there a manual or book that I could purchase that 
> would help me to troubleshoot this problem? Any help would be appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Doug
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